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Nekretaal · May 08, 2007, 02:07 PM // 14:07

Actually It's kind of hard for bots to acess hard mode.

Bots generally only buy one game out of the three and generally dont do anything that they dont have to. SO, if a bot wanted to farm the cobalts in vehjin mines in hard mode, that bot would have to complete the whole game which is probably 18 hours even if your run the whole way, or complete the whole game of Factions just to farm in hard mode.

Bots are frequently banned, so that same bot would have to re-do everything after every bann. Even in tyria, factoring all the time spent getting run, your looking at 10 hours of setup minimum for each bot (and probably much more).

Guildmaster Cain · May 08, 2007, 02:12 PM // 14:12

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Originally Posted by Henchman

They are called tomes. Although they are stackable.

Kewl... didnt know they cant be sold to merchants. Anet is smart...

Still it would only be 20 spots in inventory and do not drop that often.

Skuld · May 08, 2007, 02:23 PM // 14:23

As long as people will pay for ingame currency, there will be botting.

LifeInfusion · May 08, 2007, 02:33 PM // 14:33

Irony is anything that makes hard mode harder to access will alienate the majority of the playerbase and customers (casual players).

This in itself will cause the demise of hard mode, since you more or less have to use human players in some of the missions.

Miral · May 08, 2007, 04:39 PM // 16:39

no offense, but this is one of the dumbest ideas i've come across. bots have to complete normal mode to get to hardmode. bots generally only have ONE character per account, and never take it further than their farming destination. That account is then banned frequently, meaning even if they did somehow unlock hardmode, its now locked again.

no...

all your idea would do is screw with normal everyday players. If I have already beaten normalmode on my warrior, I should have the option of playing through the campaign exclusively in hardmode on my assassin. As it is, I do have that option. Why take it away with no positive return?

Oso Minar · May 08, 2007, 06:01 PM // 18:01

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Originally Posted by Guildmaster Cain

Make monsters drop items that can NOT be sold to merchant occasionally. These items should NOT stack either. Only way to get rid of them is to manually destroy them in the bin. Since a bot can not do this, his inventory will get flooded by unsellable items, so less revenue.

That's a neat idear.

And in all honesty, I think the Protector title should be a requirement for Hard Mode. Get Protector on one character, unlock Hard Mode for your account's level 20s. Right-o.

zwei2stein · May 08, 2007, 07:09 PM // 19:09

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Originally Posted by Guildmaster Cain

Make monsters drop items that can NOT be sold to merchant occasionally. These items should NOT stack either. Only way to get rid of them is to manually destroy them in the bin. Since a bot can not do this, his inventory will get flooded by unsellable items, so less revenue.

Unlikely to work, its not that hard to ORC text on screen and have bot do sorting of theese items.

Also, bots already do some basic sorting: they don't sell golds and dump em to 7gold-for-10k spambots, and they also save keys to sell them in big stacks (met couple of em in port sledge, selling stacks of 100+ keys)...

prism2525 · May 08, 2007, 08:22 PM // 20:22

I would rather think that to stomp botters bad the best would be some kind of silly question (1+1, multiple choice) before you exit with it's answers in randomized order each time. Bots are registered key presses and won't/shouldn't be able to cope with it, whilst a 2-year old would find no problem whatsoever.

I know this may be a bit annoying to real players, but it's a really simple question that even a no-brainer could answer. I think this could give bots a hard time, or at least I hope so

cce · May 08, 2007, 10:21 PM // 22:21

Er, just give up on bots, make a programmatic API to the game and let anyone use it. If the game is going to be about grid (as it seems to be headed in that direction), give your casual player a way to deal with it... by buying a "bot" to run the grind for them.

kumarshah · May 08, 2007, 10:53 PM // 22:53

I don't even know why people are so worried about bots.

Skuld · May 08, 2007, 11:21 PM // 23:21

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Originally Posted by kumarshah

I don't even know why people are so worried about bots.

It drives down item prices, they want more $$$ for their lewt

Oso Minar · May 09, 2007, 12:45 AM // 00:45

I'd rather make EVERYTHING unlockable, including skins, and you can choose any skin from any weapon you've ever found, plus any mods. Just like the current PvP system, but PvE characters can create their own weapons from scratch as well. The only farming would be to simply unlock what you like best, then you can use what you want without worrying about how you'll get the money to pay for it all. A gold-less MMO, though... fuhgeddaboutit.

Miral · May 09, 2007, 01:07 AM // 01:07

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Originally Posted by Skuld

It drives down item prices, they want more $$$ for their lewt

actually i think it tends more to drive prices UP. most botters dont try to sell many items to players, they just sell gold for real currency. more gold in the hands of twink buyers means the item sellers can make more off the morons, so they charge more. cycle continues until farming is required in order to buy anything decent.

What Drugs Am I On · May 09, 2007, 01:29 AM // 01:29

how could a bot solo this or farm hard mode?

The AI are advanced and higher lever, mor skills so they can interupt/ enchant removal or there own thing
plus i like my level 20 dervish not having to complete proph..

unienaule · May 09, 2007, 01:45 AM // 01:45

Uh, when bots are banned, it's not the character, it's the account, so you have to beat the campaign every time your bot account gets banninated. And since you can't access two different characters at the same time on the same account, you have no point whatsoever. Also, this is in the wrong forum, should be Sardelac, so if you think there's still a point in here somewhere (I personally don't), feel free to remake there.